In Belgium, some fellows were attending meetings from another S fellowship since 1997, but after more than 10 years no one was able to stay sober for longer periods of time, even while trying to stay sober according to their own sobriety definitions. In July 2008, one very desperate member decided to go to an international convention in the States and the first one he found on the internet happened to be an SA IC. He went there, not knowing what SA really was about. He came back as a changed man, telling the others about the concept of lust and not taking the first glass of lust. He also brought with him a couple of White Books.